In this conversation, Paul McLean and Kevin O'Leary discuss the Clue Principle, which focuses on empathetic leadership and applying empathic curiosity in the workplace. They cover the importance of communication and two-way dialogue, active listening, understanding others, and being authentic. They also emphasize the significance of empathy and putting oneself in the shoes of others. The conversation highlights the need for psychological safety, trust, and respect in the workplace. Kevin shares his insights on widening one's scope and understanding different cultures to be a more open and effective leader.